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In Hot Water Part 2

This is Part 2 of this series, which explores sources of sea level rise, including the Antarctic and Greenland Ice Sheets.

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Bob Meinetz on February 12, 2019

John, with the effects of global warming rearing their ugly heads it seems James Hansen is back in vogue - after 30 years of telling us what was going to happen, people are starting to believe him. It may be too late. After the climate-change horse has left the barn, apparently, it's time to close the door.

In 2016 Hansen and 19 co-authors wrote a paper, Ice Melt, Sea Level Rise, and Superstorms, which describes the fundamentals of why stopping the AMOC will have catastrophic effects. He even assembled a 15-minute YouTube video abstract to drive his point home - and within only two years, 4 cat-5 hurricanes have provided overwhelming confirmation of his hypothesis. It will only get worse - the new normal. As Hansen says, "all hell will break loose".

The video is a good foundation to help readers understand the followup work you describe - highly recommended.

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John Benson on February 13, 2019

Good response, Bob. If you see some of my earlier posts on climate change, you will see that Dr, Hansen has long been a major source for my information on this subject. Now he was one of the founders of the Citizens' Climate Lobby, the primary organization supporting the Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act, a bipartisan bill to implement a carbon fee and dividend system as proposed by Dr. Hansen (link below).

https://community.citizensclimatelobby.org/energy-innovation-act/?utm_term=learn%20more&utm_campaign=Bill%20Re-introduction%20-%20Recording%20from%20the%20All%20CCL%20call%20tonight&utm_content=email&utm_source=Act-On+Software&utm_medium=email

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Bob Meinetz on February 13, 2019

John, I first read of fee-and-dividend in Hansen's book Storms of my Grandchildren years ago. It seemed obvious at the time, and still does. A 2012 Wall Street Journal op-ed promoted the idea.

But in practical terms, the possiblities of any legislation which threatens profits for the largest industry in the world are minimal. Though HR 763 is described as a bipartisan bill, the only Republican on board is Francis Rooney (R-FL19).  And even if Democrats gain a solid majority in Congress, and/or we elect a Democratic president in 2020, hell hath no fury like the oil industry scorned - the bill would likely encounter a lobbying assault unprecedented in U.S. history.

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John Benson on February 13, 2019

Bob:

One of the things that CCL did (which I think is smart) was to develop the symetrically bipartisan Climate Solutions Caucus. See the link below for details.

https://citizensclimatelobby.org/climate-solutions-caucus/

I agree that there are many powerful interests lined up against this bill, but these guys are doing the right things to (eventually) get something out of congress. The Pres is a different problem. CCL has a really big grass-root base, and seems to be professionally managed.

-John

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