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U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked, Peter James Spielmann, June 29, 1989

UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.

He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.

My Observation:

That was 30 years ago, 1989, we were given 10 years to fix the "Climate Change"...  Nothing new under the sun.  

“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”

The climate deniers are those who believe that

(I) CO2 is bad for God’s Green Earth, specifically damaging trees by creating photosynthesis (a la Leonardo DiCaprio) and that

(2) fossil fueled power plants are generating more heat and pollution than the sun, volcanoes and other natural occurrences...

https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

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Matt Chester on Sep 13, 2019 1:37 pm GMT

The climate deniers are those who believe that

(I) CO2 is bad for God’s Green Earth, specifically damaging trees by creating photosynthesis (a la Leonardo DiCaprio) and that

(2) fossil fueled power plants are generating more heat and pollution than the sun, volcanoes and other natural occurrences...

This is not what people who are advocating for climate change believe. Regarding CO2, scientists have learned and recognized that the global systems on Earth are a delicate balance. CO2 is essential for life and is a natural part of the ecosystems, but that doesn't mean unmitigated and continued CO2 emissions are without problem. CO2 is a part of a cycle, and by releasing too much man-made CO2 into the atmosphere we will upset that balance, causing irreversible and cascading effects that make our relationship with Earth & the climate. To assume that 'some CO2 is good/essential, so more CO2 is fine' is dangerously short-sighted and purposely misunderstanding the science at hand.

Regarding the comparison of heat from fossil fuel plants to heat from the sun--- well I don't even really know where to start there. Again, everything the way we know it with natural systems on Earth is a delicate balance. We are given life by the heat and energy of the sun, but surely it's easily understood that too much heat from that sun could be dangerous. The danger of CO2 from non-natural sources is that it could trap more of that sun's heat on Earth than the planet's life systems and ecosystems were evolved to handle. So we're not comparing fossil fuel plants to the sun, we're comparing the sun to much more sun heat captured. 

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Noam Mayraz on Sep 13, 2019 10:31 pm GMT

Matt, You stated "To assume that 'some CO2 is good/essential, so more CO2 is fine' is dangerously short-sighted and purposely misunderstanding the science at hand."

Obviously you are not an engineer, you are a gullible person.  How dare you compare the whole God's Green Earth natural occurring CO2 to what a few fossil-fueled power plants generate?

I compare it to the fly on the ox's ass saying "WE are plowing the field".  Or the mouse and elephant running in the desert and the mouse says: "Look at the dust cloud WE are creating".

If you cannot figure out for yourself that it is all paid for scam, watch this: 

The Weather Channel Founder, not “co-founder”, John Coleman (meteorologist), Schools CNN on Climate Change “Baloney”, “there is no global warming”. 

John Stewart Coleman (October 15, 1934 – January 20, 2018) was an American television weatherman.

Excerpt (out of the 3:08 to 5:08 min):

The 97% of the climatologists is a manipulated figure – the government puts up about $2.5 b USD / year directly for climate research, it gives this money only to scientists that produce scientific results that support the global warming hypostasis.  They do not have any choice, if you are going to get the money you have got to support their position.

Hypostasis (philosophy) – noun, an underlying reality or substance, as opposed to attributes or to that which lacks substance.

This is a 10:24 min long educational video, but the 3:08 to 5:08 min segment has it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhX2KQs3v5w&feature=youtu.be

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Matt Chester on Sep 13, 2019 10:33 pm GMT

I did in fact get my engineering degree, but that's neither here nor there.

Many people all more intelligent and studied in the topic recognize the reality that fossil fuel generation creates additional CO2 that has elevated the natural levels to a dangerous degree. Again, much more CO2 in the atmosphere comes from nature and the status quo of the Earth, and no one is disputing that, but the ecosystems of the world evolved under a specific CO2 balance that's been kept for many many many years. The amount of CO2 humans have put into the atmosphere in the industrial age are tipping that balance. It doesn't have to come near to outweighing the natural levels of CO2, it just needs to be enough additional to tip over that first domino. 

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